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Robby Ingebretsen's July VSInsider column on HTML5 produced plenty of opinions.

Robby Ingebretsen's July VSInsider column on HTML5 produced plenty of opinions:

To be honest, I wouldn't say HTML5 is going to replace things like an app made in C++, but it's definitely not the hype that was Java. HTML5 -- or, more specifically, Web apps -- is real and is not going away. More and better app processing is happening on the client, even data stores.

Name Withheld

Microsoft did not get to where it is today by developing open source (or TML/JavaScript) development platforms. It also did not get where it is by cowering to the open source (or HTML/JavaScript) crowd. Silverlight is a reliable and elegant platform. This is what the company should be pushing.

John

The reason why Microsoft platform developers are overwhelmingly rejecting all the hype about HTML/JavaScript as a replacement for a "real" development environment (like we already have in the XAML/CLR languages/.NET technology stack) is because the HTML/JavaScript stack is so fundamentally lacking in the basic things we've come to depend on to create "real" applications. A partial list of big ones includes: state, object orientation, tooling, strong data typing, data binding, compilation, LINQ, the Entity Framework, Windows Communication Foundation, Windows Workflow Foundation and (at least up until recently) support from an organization (Microsoft) committed to advancing the platform's technology with a consistent level of quality and dependability while supporting its developers with a firehose of different media, online resources and events.

A complex application's UI is like the tip of an iceberg: There's much more below the surface than above. The typical HTML application is more like a sailboat: What's above the waterline may be pretty, but there's not much underneath. I wish the bigwigs at Microsoft pushing this travesty and the ignorant media types mindlessly parroting them would spend a little time understanding this.

Bryan Morris

Peter Vogel, VSM tools editor, offers a response:
Here's a question: Do you want to deliver your functionality to someone who's running on a non-Windows platform? If the answer is "No," then the .NET technologies are an excellent choice. If the answer is "Yes" (which means 95 percent of the smartphones out there), then the technologies you need are HTML and JavaScript. This assumes, of course, that you get to pick your arena: Your customers, clients or employer may disagree with your choice.

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Reader Comments:

Tue, Sep 6, 2011 Rob

I agree with the reader who is advocating moving to MVC/HTML5/JQuery. MVC is a great framework and Microsoft excels at the middle and backend layers of an application (EntityFramework, IIS, Sql Server). But as far as the front end goes their web offerings have a lot to be desired. Way to slow and resource intensive in a high demand/high volume web application. They have seen the writing on the wall and that is why they INCLUDE the jquery libraries in VS2010. I can do any page using Jquery right now that consume so much less resources then using WebForms. As far as Silverlight goes. I'm not anti-Microsoft. I just think that the front end of an application that can be consumed on any device shouldn't be proprietary technology

Tue, Sep 6, 2011

I'm an MS .Net bigot. I'm advocating moving to MVC and HTML5/JQuery in our shop. ASP.Net controls are nice but you have little control over how your page renders. I don't want MS deciding how my page is constructed for me. If you want to really be cross-browser and cross-platform compatible you need to embrace this new technology.

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